02 Mar 21, 07:38
I'm wondering since we now have a few astartes players in here:D If we could start a rolling discussion and brainstorm if you like of setups and tactics on small games combat patrol size, and incursion size battles? Most of the guides/tactics out there are written for 2k p games, And I feel that the power creep is a lot different in a 500p games than they are in 2k p games. Allso you can be countered "quicker" in a low p game as there usually is just at max 4 - 6 units for most armies. Allso most big guns units like tanks and the sort just cost to much to even use. You wont bring a land raider for a 500p game for instance (though you wont usually bring a land raider in any game compared to your other options:p), the point with the lists is finding good combinations that is points efficient aswell as being able to play it in 9th edition for the missions ;)
So ill go first
++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Raven Guard) [25 PL, 2CP, 500pts] ++
+ Configuration +
**Chapter Selection**: Hungry for Battle, Raven Guard Successor, Whirlwind of Rage
Battle Size [3CP]: 1. Combat Patrol (0-50 Total PL / 0-500 Points)
Detachment Command Cost
+ HQ +
Primaris Chaplain [5 PL, 85pts]: 6. Canticle of Hate (Aura), Litany of Hate, Swift and Deadly, Warlord
+ Troops +
Assault Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 115pts]
. 4x Assault Intercessor: 4x Astartes Chainsword, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol
. Assault Intercessor Sgt: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Thunder hammer
+ Elites +
Apothecary [5 PL, -1CP, 90pts]: Acquittal, Chapter Command: Chief Apothecary, Selfless Healer, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter
Bladeguard Veteran Squad [5 PL, 110pts]
. 2x Bladeguard Veteran: 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Master-crafted power sword, 2x Storm Shield
. Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant: Neo-volkite pistol
+ Fast Attack +
Suppressor Squad [5 PL, 100pts]
. 2x Suppressor: 2x Accelerator autocannon, 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Grav-chute
++ Total: [25 PL, 2CP, 500pts] ++
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A small patrol made for charging and smashing:D.
Chaplains swift and deadly trait makes this force quite fast as it can advance and charge.
I paid 1 cp for apothecary's wl trait as your going to pay 1cp anyway for a revival;) allso I picked the relic pistol for him since its sooooooo good :p suppressors are there for some shooting support but mostly the added bonus of no overwatch. Didnt take chaplains mantra for charge help as you get that from rg strats;) it lacks some -ap on the shooting but makes up for it in the fighting part ;)
Concerning strategems: 3 cp isn't much. RG has allways been strat hungry from the start :S all the cool stuff is pre first battle round:p But you really can't use em since you need transhuman, and gene wrought might in this list. But it really depends what your playing against.
Allso those Suppressor are excellent hq snipers when the tactical doctrine is up for raven guard and successors, even if they don't have high ap weapons. Though most hq's have a good invul save anyway. But +1hit+1wound is really nice and the + to hit is something they are missing with theyre heavy weps;) they are allso fast enough to grab a point somewhere that isn't contested and still have range of most of the map/area
So ill go first
++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Raven Guard) [25 PL, 2CP, 500pts] ++
+ Configuration +
**Chapter Selection**: Hungry for Battle, Raven Guard Successor, Whirlwind of Rage
Battle Size [3CP]: 1. Combat Patrol (0-50 Total PL / 0-500 Points)
Detachment Command Cost
+ HQ +
Primaris Chaplain [5 PL, 85pts]: 6. Canticle of Hate (Aura), Litany of Hate, Swift and Deadly, Warlord
+ Troops +
Assault Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 115pts]
. 4x Assault Intercessor: 4x Astartes Chainsword, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol
. Assault Intercessor Sgt: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Thunder hammer
+ Elites +
Apothecary [5 PL, -1CP, 90pts]: Acquittal, Chapter Command: Chief Apothecary, Selfless Healer, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter
Bladeguard Veteran Squad [5 PL, 110pts]
. 2x Bladeguard Veteran: 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Master-crafted power sword, 2x Storm Shield
. Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant: Neo-volkite pistol
+ Fast Attack +
Suppressor Squad [5 PL, 100pts]
. 2x Suppressor: 2x Accelerator autocannon, 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Grav-chute
++ Total: [25 PL, 2CP, 500pts] ++
Created with BattleScribe
A small patrol made for charging and smashing:D.
Chaplains swift and deadly trait makes this force quite fast as it can advance and charge.
I paid 1 cp for apothecary's wl trait as your going to pay 1cp anyway for a revival;) allso I picked the relic pistol for him since its sooooooo good :p suppressors are there for some shooting support but mostly the added bonus of no overwatch. Didnt take chaplains mantra for charge help as you get that from rg strats;) it lacks some -ap on the shooting but makes up for it in the fighting part ;)
Concerning strategems: 3 cp isn't much. RG has allways been strat hungry from the start :S all the cool stuff is pre first battle round:p But you really can't use em since you need transhuman, and gene wrought might in this list. But it really depends what your playing against.
Allso those Suppressor are excellent hq snipers when the tactical doctrine is up for raven guard and successors, even if they don't have high ap weapons. Though most hq's have a good invul save anyway. But +1hit+1wound is really nice and the + to hit is something they are missing with theyre heavy weps;) they are allso fast enough to grab a point somewhere that isn't contested and still have range of most of the map/area
it wasnt a great showing on my part, but made for a close battle.